Using the Big Five to Recreate Sims 2 Sims in The Sims 4

At a certain point, it occurred to me that EA used the Big Five to design their Sims in The Sims 2. I did crack the code on this, which is fully described in my post on a Sims bulletin board at Tapatalk, and I have since then created an app into which anyone can enter any Sim’s traits and find out how to set them in The Sims 4. This is how I created a new Pleasantview in The Sims 4.

I correlated each of the five traits with one of the Big Five descriptions, and from there, it was just math to convert them to the Big Five, and then, MBTI types. Once I converted them, I simply picked traits in The Sims 4 that match the corresponding MBTI types. (I also subdivided the ISTJ types into Assertive (Calm) and Turbulent (Limbic) subgroups.)

How could I make this any easier? By showing which Sims get which traits by neighborhood! I did this with a spreadsheet and made quick work of all the neighborhoods in The Sims 2. It took a few hours, but it was not boring work.

Before I post the results, I did want to point out some interesting things that came up in my sorting:

1. The only Sims who come up as INTP in any of the neighborhoods are the dead Sims with no character data, like Bella Goth in Pleasantview and Darleen Dreamer.
2. Although the Sims are fairly well distributed by most types, I tend to play Sims that share my personality type or similar types the most. I suspect this happens with a lot of Simmers.
3. There are entirely too many INFJs and ENTJs in the game. These are rare types and there should not be more of these than types like ESTP or even ENTP, but there are. One in two hundred males is an INFJ in real life. In The Sims 2, it is more like one in twenty. And don’t even get me started on the INFPs – I honestly believe about a third of the Sims have this type.
4. Considering how many real humans are ISTJs, they are quite underrepresented in The Sims 2, and this is a type I would guess actually does play the Sims quite a bit, but I could be wrong.
5. Free-time Hobbies matter. Almost all of the ESTJs were either Music or Gaming Sims, although real ESTJs are also very into Sports. In TS2, almost all of the Sports Sims were ENTJs. The topic of sports has come up in discussion on ENTJ boards in the past, and few of us are into them beyond any questionable networking value they have. ENTJs tend to prefer Fitness, Science, or Music. I don’t even know why they matched that hobby up with ENTJ traits. As for the other types, I sometimes used Preferred Hobbies as the deciding factor when the personality traits were ambiguous.

Although Gavin Newson comes up as ISTP from his stats, I gave him ISFP traits based on his preferred Nature Hobby.

So here is the Master List of all Sims, sorted by Socionics Group, Personality Type, and their Neighborhood of Origin:

Alpha Quadra (ESFJ, ISFJ, ENTP, INTP):

ESFJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: FRIEND OF THE WORLD or PARTY ANIMAL, outgoing, insider or bro, family-oriented

Pleasantview:

• John Burb
• Jennifer Burb
• Beau Broke

Desederata Valley:

Elizabeth Aspir

• Samantha Ottomas
• David Ottomas
• Trisha Traveller
• Catherine Viejo

• Ajay Loner
• Ophelia Specter
• Pascal Curious

• Isabella Monty
• Bianca Monty
• Kent Capp
• Oberon Summerdream
• Hal Capp
• Miranda Capp

• Jennail Tricou
• Kvornan Tricou

• Tiffany Sampson
• Ty Bubbler
• Aldric Davis
• Almeric Davis

ISFJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: FAMILY, good, neat, materialistic

Lucy Burb shares a personality type with 3 of her 4 grandparents

 

John and Brad Burb

John and Tiffany Burb

Diane Pleasant and her “friend”

Don Lothario’s mother Adriana

• Brad Burb
• Tiffany Burb
• Diane Pleasant
• Lucy Burb
• Adriana Lothario

Belladonna Cove’s Isabel Baldwin

• Edward Contrary
• Pauline Aspir
• Victor Aspir
• Daniel Bell

Riverblossom Hills:

Gabe O’Mackey

• Bella Goth (the real one, after which the Willow Creek Bella is modeled in TS4)
• Buck Grunt
• Jill Smith

• Regan Capp
• Goneril Capp
• Puck Summerdream

Downtown’s Fricorith Tricou

• Wanda Tinker
• Lisa Ramirez
• Denise Jacquet (née Jeffress)

• Martin Ruben (Sim State University)
• Edwin Sharpe (Academie Le Tour)
• Stella Terrano (La Fiesta Tech)
• DJ Verse (La Fiesta Tech)
• Sarah Love (La Fiesta Tech)

ENTP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: RENAISSANCE KNOWLEDGE or DASTARDLY, loves nature, hot-headed or evil, outgoing or dance machine

Pleasantview:

Mortimer and Alexander Goth have identical stats

Desederata Valley:

Hannah Bell

Strangetown:

Chloe Singles

Veronaville:

Mercutio Monty

Bluewater Village:

Florence Delarosa

UNI – Académie Le Tour:

Chaz Whippler

INTP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: RENAISSANCE or COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE, lazy, genius, loner

Only Ghosts

The only INTPs I could find in The Sims 2 were corrupted ghosts with no data:

• Darleen Dreamer
• Bella Goth in Pleasantview
• Yves Jacquet

Of course, I have not yet checked the Townies. I’ve always suspected that Marsha Bruenig is an INTP. By all means, feel free to check their stats with the converter app or change someone to one if you want INTPs.

Beta Quadra (ENFJ, INFJ, ESTP, ISTP):

ENFJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: ROMANCE, neat or active, outgoing or insider or cheerful, music lover

ENFJs are energized when they are around friends.

I found ONE Sim with this personality type among all of them. ONE. ENFJs are not abundant, but they are not super-rare.

Here he is:

William Williamson of the Student Housing household at La Fiesta Tech (UNI)

Please turn some of the abundant INFJ characters into ENFJs, starting with that Romeo named Daniel Pleasant. ENFJs are everywhere in real life; INFJs are not. The Sims 2 really messed up on this.

You get to be an ENFJ, you get to be an ENFJ, and you, EVERYONE IS TURNING INTO ENFJs TODAY!!!

INFJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: RENAISSANCE KNOWLEDGE or WRITER CREATIVE, good, music lover, cheerful

I am happy to say that I think there are only two premade INFJs in The Sims 4. EA got their act together. Ponder the fact that the actual population is 1.5% INFJ as you read the following list. Just think on it.

Pleasantview:

• Daniel Pleasant
• Coral Oldie

Riverblossom Hills:

• Tommy Ottomas
• Priya Ramaswami

Strangetown:

• Tank Grunt

Downtown:

• Patrick Teens (one of the Tricou offspring)

Sim State University:

• Allegra Gorey

La Fiesta Tech:

• Klara Vonderstein

Change them to ENFJs. One or two is plenty.

ESTP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: LEADER OF THE PACK or MANSION BARON or BODYBUILDER, active, outgoing, materialistic or ambitious

Pleasantview:

No work is necessary with Don Lothario – EA already put him there.

Bluewater Village:

• Malcolm Landgraab IV (do you really want his genetics in your neighborhood?)
• Tessa Ramirez

UNI – Sim State University:

• Josh Ruben
• Ashley Pitts

Gunnar Roque and Matthew Hart

UNI – Académie Le Tour:

Jonah Powers and Roxie Sharpe

ISTP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: NERD BRAIN, loner, perfectionist, active

Lilith Pleasant takes after her grandfather Jeff

• Armand DeBateau
• Sofia Baldwin

Desederata Valley:

• Luis Aspir
• John Mole

Strangetown:

• Nervous Test Subject

UNI – Sim State University:

Erik Swain from the Students household

Gamma Quadra (ENTJ, INTJ, ESFP, ISFP):

ENTJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: FABULOUSLY WEALTHY, creative, hot-headed, outgoing or gregarious or active (BUT NEVER THE BRO TRAIT)

ENTJs differ from other Fortune Sims in that being promoted and reaching the top of the career is the goal, not purchasing more and more stuff. Power trumps things. MUSE, PROGRAMMER, or BODYBUILDER aspirations are acceptable as long as you can stay focused on making your Sim rise in his or her career.

Workaholic Travis Scott is very focused on his career in computers and lives like a monk. He is the very embodiment of a typical 20-something ENTJ.

This is the massive list of ENTJs from The Sims 2. We only constitute about 1.7% of the population, so please make some of these into other types of Fortune Sims. You have my full blessing as an ENTJ. And for the love of God, please don’t make them Bros.

I would ditch all of them except for Tiave Tricou and Ellen Frost, if I had my druthers.

Half of Jon Smith Tricou’s illegitimate kids are ENTJs. Can we say disproportionate?

INTJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: COMPUTER or RENAISSANCE KNOWLEDGE or WRITER CREATIVE, materialistic or ambitious, hot-headed or geek, loner or bookworm

The Art Lover and PAINTER MUSE traits are not unrealistic, either.

Pleasantview:

• Nina Caliente (EA changed her to an ENTP in TS4)

Belladonna Cove:

• Jason Cleveland

Riverblossom Hills:

• Dora Ottomas (the grandmother)

Strangetown:

• Vidcund Curious

Veronaville:

• Hermia Capp
• Cornwall Capp
• Antonio Monty

Bluewater Village:

• Melody Tinker

UNI – Académie Le Tour:

• Phineaus Furley
• Delilah O’Feefe

ESFP:

Recommended Traits in TS4:  LEADER OF THE PACK or JOKE STAR, noncommittal or goofball, ambitious or confident, creative or music lover

This is one of the most frequently found personality types, and TS4 has provided an abundance of them throughout the neighborhoods, especially Oasis Springs.

In TS2, these are the ESFPs:

Pleasantview:

• Cyd Roseland

Riverblossom Hills:

• Trent Traveller

Veronaville:

• Ariel Capp
• Bottom Summerdream

Bluewater Village:

• Jason Larson
• Checo Ramirez

UNI – La Fiesta Tech:

• Guy Wrightley
• Jessie Pilferson

UNI – Académie Le Tour:

Max Flexor

ISFP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: GARDENING or ANGLING, loner, loves outdoors, art lover

Alice Spencer-Kim is the definition of an ISFP in TS4. If in doubt, just copy her traits onto your ISFP Sim.

Pleasantview:

• Darren Dreamer
• Angela Pleasant

Belladonna Cove:

• Gavin Newson

Desederata Valley:

Marcel Jocque

Riverblossom Hills:

• Leod McGreggor

Strangetown:

• Erin Singles (Beaker)
• Jenny Smith

Veronaville:

Beatrice and Benedick with their father.

• Beatrice Monty
• Benedick Monty

Downtown:

Orion Teens (Tricou)

UNI – Sim State University:

• Sam Thomas

UNI – La Fiesta Tech:

• Blossom Moonbeam

UNI – Académie Le Tour:

•  Emily Lee

Delta Quadra (ESTJ, ISTJ, ENFP, INFP):

ESTJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: MANSION BARON, hot-headed, active, music lover

Eva Capricciosa enjoys athletic activities and relaxing with her friends. She is often the police chief if your Sim works in the Detective Career. Contrast her with her workaholic ENTJ roommate Jade, who never takes a break from her career to hang out and relax, or her calm ESFJ roommates who just want to watch sports together or play Foosball.

Neighborhood	Sim
Plesantview	Mary Sue Pleasant
	Cynthia Kim
	Justin Kim
	Skip Broke
Belladonna Cove	Ginger Newson
	Marissa Cleveland
	Connor Weir
	Vivian Cho
	Etsu Cho
	Timothy Riley
	Jessica Peterson
Desederata Valley	Sophia Jocque
	Sharon Wirth
Riverblossom Hills	Sharla Ottomas
	Sanjay Ramaswami
	Morty Roth
	Sandra Roth
	Xander Roth
	Betty Goldstein Judge Betty I see what you did there.
	Patricia Wan
	Jules O’Mackey
Strangetown	Olive Specter
Veronaville	Patrizio Monty
	Tybault Capp
	Juliette Capp
	Albany Capp
	Desdemona Capp
Downtown	Nylissit Tricou
	Gvaudoin Tricou

ISTJ:

Bob Pancakes is a neurotic ISTJ, and would probably be better suited to a Family Aspiration

Although there were not a lot of ISTJ Sims to work with in TS2, I made a distinction between the healthy ones and the neurotic ones, because that really impacts the best lifetime aspiration you should assign to such a Sim.

ISTJ-T (neurotic):

Recommended Traits in TS4: FOOD or FAMILY, loner, gloomy, bookworm

• Veronaville: Consort Capp

ISTJ-A (calm):

Kimberly Cordial is the Evil Witch

Recommended Traits in TS4: FOOD or COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE, loner, neat, bookworm

• Pleasantview: Cassandra Goth
• Belladonna Cove: Kimberly Cordial
• Strangetown: Pollination Tech # 9 Smith
• Bluewater Village: Stephen Tinker
• UNI – La Fiesta Tech: Francis J. Worthington III

ENFP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: PAINTER or WRITER CREATIVE, hot-headed, goofball, lazy or slob

If you’ve ever played the Jang family in San Myshuno, then you are aware of Anaya’s rather unique taste in decor for her art studio.

So many unique, special snowflakes! And they’re all basically the same Sim! Pretty much every Romance Townie in TS2 is an ENFP (*cough cough* Goopy) – in fact, pretty much all the Romance Sims are. Although ENFPs do not shy away from romance in real life, they are far more motivated by their creative urges. I would make all but the musical ones have the Painter Muse Aspiration, and assign the Bestseller Muse Aspiration to the others. It’s a safe bet in this game that if you aren’t sure who or what the Sim is, then it’s an ENFP. EA knows who plays this game the most of any of the types. Remember what I said earlier about playing the Sims most like myself.

This Sim is the Kestrel Teen.

Neighborhood	Sim
Plesantview	Dina Caliente
	Herb Oldie
	Brandi Broke
	Dustin Broke
Desederata Valley	Natasha Una
	Isaac Bell
Riverblossom Hills	Peter Ottomas
	Stella Roth
	Rose Greenman
	Daisy Greenman
Strangetown	Ripp Grunt
	Lola Singles (Curious)
	Kristen Singles (Loste)
	Johnny Smith
	Lazlo Curious
Veronaville	Romeo Monty
	Titania Summerdream
Downtown	Jon Smith Tricou
	Jennicor Tricou
	Kiernan Tricou
	Kestrel Teens
Bluewater Village	Jodie Larson
	Gilbert Jacquet
UNI – Sim State University	Heather Huffington
	Kevin Beare
	Castor Nova
	Jared Starchild
	Jimmy Phoenix
UNI – La Fiesta Tech	Mickey Dosser
UNI – Academie Le Tour	Tom Freshe
	Mitch Indie

INFP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: NERD BRAIN or RENAISSANCE KNOWLEDGE or MUSICAL CREATIVE, loner, gloomy, bookworm or perfectionist

Cassandra Goth has both the Muse and Gloomy traits in TS4

Here are the INFP Sims by neighborhood. INFPs tend to be musical or literary, as well as handy. Most of these had the Tinkering Hobby in TS2. Those with the Muse Aspiration should also have the Perfectionist Trait.

Neighborhood	Sim
Pleasantview	Flamenco Caliente
	Nighat Caliente
	Dirk Dreamer
	Daniel Pleasant
	Tara Kat
Belladonna Cove	Gabriella Newson
	Gallagher Newson
	Garrett Newson
	Justin Cleveland
	Geoff Rutherford
	Samantha Cordial
	Benjamin Baldwin
	Gabriel Green
	Chastity Gere
	Ramir Patel
	Ana Patel
Riverblossom Hills	Andrew Martin
	Jacob Martin
	Cleo Shikibu
	Jason Greenman
Bluewater Village	Chester Gieke
UNI – Sim State University	Jane Stacks
UNI – La Fiesta Tech	Jasmine Rai
	Zoe Zimmerman
UNI – Academie Le Tour	Marla Biggs

I hope this has given you some ideas to make a great game even better! Happy Simming!

The Sims 4 – New Pleasantview

So I have been recreating and building on the Pleasantview families with The Sims 4, a most excellent updated Sims game that retains all the humor, richness and pretty Sims we all know and love from The Sims 2 while adding new features that were only touched upon in the older versions of the game, like emotions and visits.

Sure, you could download The Period Mod from modthesims (a site I detest because of its nasty history of plagiarism and outright stealing material from other sites without giving proper credit to the original creators – for example, when it stole material from my other blog at LiveJournal after I sent them a Cease and Desist letter) and your Sims would go berserk squirming from cramps and filling up the dorm toilets to take care of certain “needs”. However, with The Sims 4, without having to download any mods, your female Simmies now wake up with hot-headed, angry moodlets, wanting to start fights, “troll teh forums” and sore, then two days later, wake up all flirty and happy. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be…

That time of the month?

Not a happy camper…

It’s all wine and roses now…

Those aren’t my Simmies, so whoever uploaded those screenshots, well, I hope they don’t mind my borrowing the images. I’ve seen these emotions occur over and over with mine as well.

At any rate, I’ve decided the neighborhood isn’t quite complete without my favorite Sims from Ye Olde Sims 2, so a chosen few families were picked to join the Goths and Landgraabs (and Johnny Zest, nee Dudley Landgraab), as well as the Caliente-Lothario clan. First, a few photos of the premades:

The Goth family enjoying breakfast and a relaxing morning together

Dudley “Johnny Zest” Landgraab with a fellow Noteables club member taking a selfie. Oh yeah, TS4 Simmies love taking selfies.

You would never guess it from this picture, but Nina Caliente barely sleeps from all the parties she throws and attends. Sometimes she squeezes in some Woohoo with Don, too.

Don Lothario – the original Dr. McSteamy

And of course there are the Landgraab ancestors (Nancy, Geoffrey and Malcolm the First) and Katrina and Dina Caliente. There are a slew of new characters from TS3 and TS4.

I did recreate the Broke family, but they are in a different world, so this is probably the first and last time you will ever see them. Wave bye-bye to the Brokes, everyone.

Brandi, Dustin, Skip and Beau Broke before the POS Pink House was built.

Brandi “one more round of Candy Crush” Broke for Mother of the Year

So now you see the foundation, let me lay the groundwork and then you’ll see what’s starting to happen.

First, I added in the Burb family, I’m talking Brad and Tiffany and a teenaged John. Tiffany owns the toy store and Brad is rapidly building up his fishing skills. I paid meticulous attention to their genetics and personality traits (which, if you read my other blogs, you know I am somewhat of a fanatic on that subject). John has the necessary ESFJ traits to make him outgoing and sentimental and also outdoorsy enough to enjoy gardening. I plan to also make him a Foodie when he ages up to an adult, since he had the Vegan trait in TS3.

John and Tiffany Burb. Tiffany has not yet discovered her trademark peroxide.

John and Brad Burb. Brad is becoming quite the Angler these days.

Although I don’t intend to match John with Jennifer Pleasant – I have other plans for him – I did create the Pleasant family next.

Jeff and Diane Pleasant – ESTJ and INFP

A teenaged Daniel Pleasant on an energized jog – ENFJ

A very tomboyish Jennifer Pleasant as a child – ESTP

Whereas the Burb family kind of drifts through life, the Pleasants are very goal-oriented and it is very clear what created the dysfunctional father that Daniel Pleasant and the type A mother that Jennifer Burb became early on. It is also clear that Daniel Pleasant never meant to rise above the position of coach. He has an irresistable urge to mentor and dole out advice from childhood.

Daniel the Life Coach

If you have a Daniel Pleasant, the next logical step, of course, is Mary Sue Oldie.

The Oldie family at dinner

Herb Oldie dotes over his daughter and INTJ Coral Oldie is grooming Mary Sue to be the ENTJ puppetmaster she is destined to become. Of course, for now, this means that Coral must listen to Mary Sue’s terrible piano playing while she is trying to enjoy her trashy romance novels and sci-fi novels. Coral takes solace in posting photos of her food creations on Instagram. She does it all the time, for real. I love technology.

The struggle is real – INTJ problems.

Herb Oldie: doting father.

There was one more family that needed to be added to the mix. It was a large family that was scattered throughout all the neighborhoods in The Sims 2. They were Townies and NPCs and included probably the second most famous Townie of them all. I don’t know, maybe their family includes THE most famous townie, it’s a close race.

Are you #TeamGoopy or #TeamMarsha ?

I’m Team Marsha, so I tracked down all the Bruenig Townies and NPCs and recreated them as one cohesive family unit.

The Bruenig family

More Bruenigs

That’s right, I’ve combined Professor Timothy Bruenig (the Art Professor), Jaiden Bruenig (the Good Witch), Toby Bruenig from the Garden Society, Sadie Bruenig the Police Woman, Ratna Bruenig the Bartender, Justus Bruenig the Paperboy, and of course, the Immortal Marsha Bruenig, all into one big, happy family.

Professor Timothy and Jaiden Bruenig with Ratna

Grandparents Timothy and Jaiden are the patriarch and matriarch of the clan. Timothy is in the art career, but Jaiden stays at home mixing bar drinks in hopes of developing the ultimate elixir one day. Their younger son Ratna is extremely outgoing and has already befriended half a dozen neighbors in about half an hour.

Toby Bruenig puts his plant and collecting skills to good use at the Science Center. Sadie continues her police work. She loves Jaiden’s drinks – maybe too much.

Did I mention that Sadie likes her booze?

Marsha studying with Jaiden

Marsha is a lot like her grandmother, so it only made sense to have her grandmother tutor her with her homework. I see the two becoming close in the future.

Double double boil and bubble…

Justus prepares to tackle his homework with Toby’s help.

So all the families are set in place now.

The first thing I noticed was that some revelations occurred about some long-standing mysteries in The Sims 2, namely:

1. Why and how did Skip Broke drown?

   

   Skip Broke became feverish and broke out in hives one night when he was dead tired. Had I not cancelled this action immediately, he would have drowned in the pool, ladder or no pool ladder.

2. What really happened to Bella Goth?

   

   I’m not saying it’s Aliens, but it’s Aliens. She went out to introduce herself to a passerby and show him her baby bump when electricity came off his hands. She had a positive moodlet from Meeting an Alien and suddenly became about 70 days younger. Do the math. There was also a strange book on the shelf by Bella Goth about switching places with a body double.

3. Why does Marsha Bruenig call everyone at 2AM to talk about toys?

   

   Monster under the Bed – Aha! Now it all makes sense! Do you think it might eat her one day? One can dream…

Let the games begin.

Once I had all the families in place, I was ready to let them start interacting. Of course Nina and Don are a couple now.

Nina and Don

In fact, Nina flirts with most of the members of the Partihaus club.

Diane Pleasant and her “friend”

Diane Pleasant has started her own club, a grown-up version of the Avant Gardes called The Desperate Housewives. She is also well on her way to cheating on her astronaut husband with this guy. (Why am I thinking of that scene from The Graduate?)

Meanwhile, her romantic son Daniel has hooked up with the girl next door and exchanged smart phone numbers. So far so innocent. We all know how that is destined to turn out. But right now, everything about them makes perfect sense and they seem like a perfect match.

Daniel and Mary Sue about to exchange phone numbers.

Bella Goth had her twins and they let a visitor into the house. It turns out he was coming to see Cassandra to cheer her up and ask for her number as well. I know from pairing these two up in the past that they make a great couple. They seemed really excited to meet.

John and Cassandra

Finally, these two met for the first time. Let the chips fall where they may…

Don and Bella meet for the first time