Using the Big Five to Recreate Sims 2 Sims in The Sims 4

Daniel and Mary Sue

At a certain point, it occurred to me that EA used the Big Five to design their Sims in The Sims 2. I did crack the code on this, which is fully described in my post on a Sims bulletin board at Tapatalk, and I have since then created an app into which anyone can enter any Sim’s traits and find out how to set them in The Sims 4. This is how I created a new Pleasantview in The Sims 4.

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I correlated each of the five traits with one of the Big Five descriptions, and from there, it was just math to convert them to the Big Five, and then, MBTI types. Once I converted them, I simply picked traits in The Sims 4 that match the corresponding MBTI types. (I also subdivided the ISTJ types into Assertive (Calm) and Turbulent (Limbic) subgroups.)

How could I make this any easier? By showing which Sims get which traits by neighborhood! I did this with a spreadsheet and made quick work of all the neighborhoods in The Sims 2. It took a few hours, but it was not boring work.

Before I post the results, I did want to point out some interesting things that came up in my sorting:

  1. The only Sims who come up as INTP in any of the neighborhoods are the dead Sims with no character data, like Bella Goth in Pleasantview and Darleen Dreamer.
  2. Although the Sims are fairly well distributed by most types, I tend to play Sims that share my personality type or similar types the most. I suspect this happens with a lot of Simmers.
  3. There are entirely too many INFJs and ENTJs in the game. These are rare types and there should not be more of these than types like ESTP or even ENTP, but there are. One in two hundred males is an INFJ in real life. In The Sims 2, it is more like one in twenty. And don’t even get me started on the INFPs – I honestly believe about a third of the Sims have this type.
  4. Considering how many real humans are ISTJs, they are quite underrepresented in The Sims 2, and this is a type I would guess actually does play the Sims quite a bit, but I could be wrong.
  5. Free-time Hobbies matter. Almost all of the ESTJs were either Music or Gaming Sims, although real ESTJs are also very into Sports. In TS2, almost all of the Sports Sims were ENTJs. The topic of sports has come up in discussion on ENTJ boards in the past, and few of us are into them beyond any questionable networking value they have. ENTJs tend to prefer Fitness, Science, or Music. I don’t even know why they matched that hobby up with ENTJ traits. As for the other types, I sometimes used Preferred Hobbies as the deciding factor when the personality traits were ambiguous.
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Although Gavin Newson comes up as ISTP from his stats, I gave him ISFP traits based on his preferred Nature Hobby.

So here is the Master List of all Sims, sorted by Socionics Group, Personality Type, and their Neighborhood of Origin:

Alpha Quadra (ESFJ, ISFJ, ENTP, INTP):

ESFJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: FRIEND OF THE WORLD or PARTY ANIMAL, outgoing, insider or bro, family-oriented

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Pleasantview:

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  • John Burb
  • Jennifer Burb
  • Beau Broke

Desederata Valley:

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Elizabeth Aspir

ESFJriverblossom

  • Samantha Ottomas
  • David Ottomas
  • Trisha Traveller
  • Catherine Viejo

ESFJstrangetown

  • Ajay Loner
  • Ophelia Specter
  • Pascal Curious

ESFJveronaville

  • Isabella Monty
  • Bianca Monty
  • Kent Capp
  • Oberon Summerdream
  • Hal Capp
  • Miranda Capp

ESFJdowntown

  • Jennail Tricou
  • Kvornan Tricou

ESFJuni

  • Tiffany Sampson
  • Ty Bubbler
  • Aldric Davis
  • Almeric Davis

ISFJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: FAMILY, good, neat, materialistic

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Lucy Burb shares a personality type with 3 of her 4 grandparents

 

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Don Lothario’s mother Adriana
  • Brad Burb
  • Tiffany Burb
  • Diane Pleasant
  • Lucy Burb
  • Adriana Lothario
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Belladonna Cove’s Isabel Baldwin

ISFJdesederata

  • Edward Contrary
  • Pauline Aspir
  • Victor Aspir
  • Daniel Bell

Riverblossom Hills:

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Gabe O’Mackey

ISFJstrangetown

  • Bella Goth (the real one, after which the Willow Creek Bella is modeled in TS4)
  • Buck Grunt
  • Jill Smith

ISFJveronaville

  • Regan Capp
  • Goneril Capp
  • Puck Summerdream
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Downtown’s Fricorith Tricou

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  • Wanda Tinker
  • Lisa Ramirez
  • Denise Jacquet (née Jeffress)

ISFJuni

  • Martin Ruben (Sim State University)
  • Edwin Sharpe (Academie Le Tour)
  • Stella Terrano (La Fiesta Tech)
  • DJ Verse (La Fiesta Tech)
  • Sarah Love (La Fiesta Tech)

ENTP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: RENAISSANCE KNOWLEDGE or DASTARDLY, loves nature, hot-headed or evil, outgoing or dance machine

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Pleasantview:

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Mortimer and Alexander Goth have identical stats

Desederata Valley:

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Hannah Bell

Strangetown:

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Chloe Singles

Veronaville:

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Mercutio Monty

Bluewater Village:

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Florence Delarosa

UNI – Académie Le Tour:

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Chaz Whippler

INTP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: RENAISSANCE or COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE, lazy, genius, loner

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Only Ghosts

The only INTPs I could find in The Sims 2 were corrupted ghosts with no data:

  • Darleen Dreamer
  • Bella Goth in Pleasantview
  • Yves Jacquet

Of course, I have not yet checked the Townies. I’ve always suspected that Marsha Bruenig is an INTP. By all means, feel free to check their stats with the converter app or change someone to one if you want INTPs.

Beta Quadra (ENFJ, INFJ, ESTP, ISTP):

ENFJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: ROMANCE, neat or active, outgoing or insider or cheerful, music lover

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ENFJs are energized when they are around friends.

I found ONE Sim with this personality type among all of them. ONE. ENFJs are not abundant, but they are not super-rare.

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Here he is:

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William Williamson of the Student Housing household at La Fiesta Tech (UNI)

Please turn some of the abundant INFJ characters into ENFJs, starting with that Romeo named Daniel Pleasant. ENFJs are everywhere in real life; INFJs are not. The Sims 2 really messed up on this.

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You get to be an ENFJ, you get to be an ENFJ, and you, EVERYONE IS TURNING INTO ENFJs TODAY!!!

INFJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: RENAISSANCE KNOWLEDGE or WRITER CREATIVE, good, music lover, cheerful

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I am happy to say that I think there are only two premade INFJs in The Sims 4. EA got their act together. Ponder the fact that the actual population is 1.5% INFJ as you read the following list. Just think on it.

Pleasantview:

  • Daniel Pleasant
  • Coral Oldie

Riverblossom Hills:

  • Tommy Ottomas
  • Priya Ramaswami

Strangetown:

  • Tank Grunt

Downtown:

  • Patrick Teens (one of the Tricou offspring)

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Sim State University:

  • Allegra Gorey

La Fiesta Tech:

  • Klara Vonderstein
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Change them to ENFJs. One or two is plenty.

ESTP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: LEADER OF THE PACK or MANSION BARON or BODYBUILDER, active, outgoing, materialistic or ambitious

Pleasantview:

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No work is necessary with Don Lothario – EA already put him there.

Bluewater Village:

  • Malcolm Landgraab IV (do you really want his genetics in your neighborhood?)
  • Tessa Ramirez

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UNI – Sim State University:

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  • Josh Ruben
  • Ashley Pitts
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Gunnar Roque and Matthew Hart

UNI – Académie Le Tour:

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Jonah Powers and Roxie Sharpe

ISTP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: NERD BRAIN, loner, perfectionist, active

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Lilith Pleasant takes after her grandfather Jeff

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  • Armand DeBateau
  • Sofia Baldwin

Desederata Valley:

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  • Luis Aspir
  • John Mole

Strangetown:

  • Nervous Test Subject

UNI – Sim State University:

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Erik Swain from the Students household

Gamma Quadra (ENTJ, INTJ, ESFP, ISFP):

ENTJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: FABULOUSLY WEALTHY, creative, hot-headed, outgoing or gregarious or active (BUT NEVER THE BRO TRAIT)

ENTJs differ from other Fortune Sims in that being promoted and reaching the top of the career is the goal, not purchasing more and more stuff. Power trumps things. MUSE, PROGRAMMER, or BODYBUILDER aspirations are acceptable as long as you can stay focused on making your Sim rise in his or her career.

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Workaholic Travis Scott is very focused on his career in computers and lives like a monk. He is the very embodiment of a typical 20-something ENTJ.

This is the massive list of ENTJs from The Sims 2. We only constitute about 1.7% of the population, so please make some of these into other types of Fortune Sims. You have my full blessing as an ENTJ. And for the love of God, please don’t make them Bros.

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I would ditch all of them except for Tiave Tricou and Ellen Frost, if I had my druthers.

Half of Jon Smith Tricou’s illegitimate kids are ENTJs. Can we say disproportionate?

INTJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: COMPUTER or RENAISSANCE KNOWLEDGE or WRITER CREATIVE, materialistic or ambitious, hot-headed or geek, loner or bookworm

The Art Lover and PAINTER MUSE traits are not unrealistic, either.

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Pleasantview:

  • Nina Caliente (EA changed her to an ENTP in TS4)

Belladonna Cove:

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  • Jason Cleveland

Riverblossom Hills:

  • Dora Ottomas (the grandmother)

Strangetown:

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  • Vidcund Curious

Veronaville:

  • Hermia Capp
  • Cornwall Capp
  • Antonio Monty

Bluewater Village:

  • Melody Tinker

UNI – Académie Le Tour:

  • Phineaus Furley
  • Delilah O’Feefe

ESFP:

Recommended Traits in TS4:  LEADER OF THE PACK or JOKE STAR, noncommittal or goofball, ambitious or confident, creative or music lover

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This is one of the most frequently found personality types, and TS4 has provided an abundance of them throughout the neighborhoods, especially Oasis Springs.

In TS2, these are the ESFPs:

Pleasantview:

  • Cyd Roseland

Riverblossom Hills:

  • Trent Traveller

Veronaville:

  • Ariel Capp
  • Bottom Summerdream

Bluewater Village:

  • Jason Larson
  • Checo Ramirez

UNI – La Fiesta Tech:

  • Guy Wrightley
  • Jessie Pilferson

UNI – Académie Le Tour:

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Max Flexor

ISFP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: GARDENING or ANGLING, loner, loves outdoors, art lover

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Alice Spencer-Kim is the definition of an ISFP in TS4. If in doubt, just copy her traits onto your ISFP Sim.

Pleasantview:

  • Darren Dreamer
  • Angela Pleasant

Belladonna Cove:

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  • Gavin Newson

Desederata Valley:

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Marcel Jocque

Riverblossom Hills:

  • Leod McGreggor

Strangetown:

  • Erin Singles (Beaker)
  • Jenny Smith

Veronaville:

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Beatrice and Benedick with their father.
  • Beatrice Monty
  • Benedick Monty

Downtown:

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Orion Teens (Tricou)

UNI – Sim State University:

  • Sam Thomas

UNI – La Fiesta Tech:

  • Blossom Moonbeam

UNI – Académie Le Tour:

  •  Emily Lee

Delta Quadra (ESTJ, ISTJ, ENFP, INFP):

ESTJ:

Recommended Traits in TS4: MANSION BARON, hot-headed, active, music lover

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Eva Capricciosa enjoys athletic activities and relaxing with her friends. She is often the police chief if your Sim works in the Detective Career. Contrast her with her workaholic ENTJ roommate Jade, who never takes a break from her career to hang out and relax, or her calm ESFJ roommates who just want to watch sports together or play Foosball.
Neighborhood Sim
Plesantview Mary Sue Pleasant
Cynthia Kim
Justin Kim
Skip Broke
Belladonna Cove Ginger Newson
Marissa Cleveland
Connor Weir
Vivian Cho
Etsu Cho
Timothy Riley
Jessica Peterson
Desederata Valley Sophia Jocque
Sharon Wirth
Riverblossom Hills Sharla Ottomas
Sanjay Ramaswami
Morty Roth
Sandra Roth
Xander Roth
Betty Goldstein

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Judge Betty

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I see what you did there.
Patricia Wan
Jules O’Mackey
Strangetown Olive Specter
Veronaville Patrizio Monty
Tybault Capp
Juliette Capp
Albany Capp
Desdemona Capp
Downtown Nylissit Tricou
Gvaudoin Tricou

ISTJ:

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Bob Pancakes is a neurotic ISTJ, and would probably be better suited to a Family Aspiration

Although there were not a lot of ISTJ Sims to work with in TS2, I made a distinction between the healthy ones and the neurotic ones, because that really impacts the best lifetime aspiration you should assign to such a Sim.

ISTJ-T (neurotic):

Recommended Traits in TS4: FOOD or FAMILY, loner, gloomy, bookworm

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  • Veronaville: Consort Capp

ISTJ-A (calm):

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Recommended Traits in TS4: FOOD or COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE, loner, neat, bookworm

  • Pleasantview: Cassandra Goth
  • Belladonna Cove: Kimberly Cordial
  • Strangetown: Pollination Tech # 9 Smith
  • Bluewater Village: Stephen Tinker
  • UNI – La Fiesta Tech: Francis J. Worthington III

ENFP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: PAINTER or WRITER CREATIVE, hot-headed, goofball, lazy or slob

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If you’ve ever played the Jang family in San Myshuno, then you are aware of Anaya’s rather unique taste in decor for her art studio.

So many unique, special snowflakes! And they’re all basically the same Sim! Pretty much every Romance Townie in TS2 is an ENFP (*cough cough* Goopy) – in fact, pretty much all the Romance Sims are. Although ENFPs do not shy away from romance in real life, they are far more motivated by their creative urges. I would make all but the musical ones have the Painter Muse Aspiration, and assign the Bestseller Muse Aspiration to the others. It’s a safe bet in this game that if you aren’t sure who or what the Sim is, then it’s an ENFP. EA knows who plays this game the most of any of the types. Remember what I said earlier about playing the Sims most like myself.

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This Sim is the Kestrel Teen.
Neighborhood Sim
Plesantview Dina Caliente
Herb Oldie
Brandi Broke
Dustin Broke
Desederata Valley Natasha Una
Isaac Bell
Riverblossom Hills Peter Ottomas
Stella Roth
Rose Greenman
Daisy Greenman
Strangetown Ripp Grunt
Lola Singles (Curious)
Kristen Singles (Loste)
Johnny Smith
Lazlo Curious
Veronaville Romeo Monty
Titania Summerdream
Downtown Jon Smith Tricou
Jennicor Tricou
Kiernan Tricou
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Bluewater Village Jodie Larson
Gilbert Jacquet
UNI – Sim State University Heather Huffington
Kevin Beare
Castor Nova
Jared Starchild
Jimmy Phoenix
UNI – La Fiesta Tech Mickey Dosser
UNI – Academie Le Tour Tom Freshe
Mitch Indie

INFP:

Recommended Traits in TS4: NERD BRAIN or RENAISSANCE KNOWLEDGE or MUSICAL CREATIVE, loner, gloomy, bookworm or perfectionist

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Cassandra Goth has both the Muse and Gloomy traits in TS4

Here are the INFP Sims by neighborhood. INFPs tend to be musical or literary, as well as handy. Most of these had the Tinkering Hobby in TS2. Those with the Muse Aspiration should also have the Perfectionist Trait.

Neighborhood Sim
Pleasantview Flamenco Caliente
Nighat Caliente
Dirk Dreamer
Daniel Pleasant
Tara Kat
Belladonna Cove Gabriella Newson
Gallagher Newson
Garrett Newson
Justin Cleveland
Geoff Rutherford
Samantha Cordial
Benjamin Baldwin
Gabriel Green
Chastity Gere
Ramir Patel
Ana Patel
Riverblossom Hills Andrew Martin
Jacob Martin
Cleo Shikibu
Jason Greenman
Bluewater Village Chester Gieke
UNI – Sim State University Jane Stacks
UNI – La Fiesta Tech Jasmine Rai
Zoe Zimmerman
UNI – Academie Le Tour Marla Biggs

I hope this has given you some ideas to make a great game even better! Happy Simming!